Siphoning - Not Siphoning?
I am having to move the outlet drain hose every time we use the washing machine. In order to fill for wash I have to make sure the hose is high but to drain the water I have to lower the hose. The machine works when I do these tasks but it is a lot of fiddling about, is there any permanent solution?
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Washing machine only fills or drains when outlet hose position is changed
- The problem
- The washing machine would only fill for wash when the drain hose was kept high, and would only empty when the hose was lowered manually. The user wanted a permanent solution instead of moving the hose each time.
- Likely cause
- Two separate faults were suggested. If water is draining away during filling, the machine is likely siphoning because the drain hose is pushed too far down the waste pipe or the waste pipe is fitted too low. If the machine only empties when the hose is dropped low, the drain pump is likely not pumping properly due to a failed pump or a blockage/obstruction in the pump, sump hose or drain hose.
- What fixed it
- Correct the drain hose installation so it cannot siphon, and investigate the drain system for a pumping fault or blockage. The accepted reply indicates the draining issue is separate from siphoning. The exact repair carried out was not confirmed in the discussion.
- Checks to try
- Check whether water fills and immediately runs down the drain
- Check whether the drain hose is pushed too far down the waste pipe
- Check whether the waste pipe is fitted too low
- Check for blockage or obstruction in the pump
- Check for blockage or obstruction in the sump hose
- Check for blockage or obstruction in the drain hose
Safety: Further diagnosis should be carried out by a suitably qualified appliance engineer.
1 Answer
If the washing machine is siphoning, then water going into the machine will siphon straight down the drain as fast as it can fill. The washing machine will get stuck on a fill position. This is caused when the drain hose is pushed too far down the waste pipe, or the waste pipe is just fitted too low. Siphoning on washing machines is explained here - Washing machine constantly fills with water and goes down the drain
The other problem you mention is caused by the washing machine not emptying the water fast enough, and is totally separate. If you are having to get the water out by dropping the drain hose really low (forcing siphoning) then the pump either isn't working or it's got a blockage or obstruction in it (or in the sump hose leading to it or even in the drain hose)
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