Hoover Hwb280-80 Bearings
Hi,
please can somebody help?
Our HWB280-80 washer had worn bearing (the usual thuming noise, loose drum etc)
I order a bearing set, and new door seal and set to work. It was a real pain getting the whole tub out because the front ogf the machine is fixed so the tub has to be lifted through the top, but, that aside, once the tub was out I thought i could simply split it and remove the drum to get to the bearings.
How wrong I was!
The tub was stuck fast and took several hefty thumps of a hammer to remove the spindle from the bearings, one of which (the inner one) was completely broken.
Needless to say, thumping the spindle "mushroomed" the head so a new spider was bought, as well as a bearing kit.
Now, I couldn't compare the bearing kit and seal because the original was in such a bad way. So I dutifully fitted the rear bearing and then pondered over the inner bearing, which didn't look as if it would fit flush. None the less, I fitted it, slid the seal down the spider shaft and went to fit the tub back into the drum.
The spindle on the spider is a bit of an unusual shape so I wasn't too surprised when it took a bit of effort. But it stuck fast! Even though the bearings are in flat, there's no way on earth, even with the trusty mallet, I can get the spindle all the way through the tub, and now it is all stuck together.
In truth, I don't know if I've got the right bearing kit, I'm sure the spider is correct, but given the huge amount of effort to remove the drum from the tub I wondered if anyone out there could help please?
Thanks in advance
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Hoover HWB280-80 drum bearing refit query after bearing failure
- The problem
- A Hoover HWB280-80 washing machine had worn drum bearings, with thumping noise and a loose drum. During strip-down, the inner bearing was found broken. The drum spindle was hammered out and the shaft end was damaged, so a new spider and bearing kit were obtained. On reassembly, the drum shaft would not pass fully through the tub bearings and became stuck, raising concern that the bearing kit might be incorrect or not fitted properly.
- Likely cause
- The strongest supported diagnosis is incorrect bearing/seal installation rather than a confirmed wrong bearing kit. The accepted advice states the bearing seal should fit over the front bearing before the drum is fitted, and the front bearing should be driven fully home into its recess so there is room for the seal.
- What fixed it
- Refit with the front bearing knocked fully into its recess until it seats, then fit the bearing seal over the front bearing before installing the drum. One reply says that if the bearing fits into the housing it is likely to be the correct type, although this was not confirmed with certainty.
- Checks to try
- Original bearing failure symptoms were thumping noise and loose drum
- Inner bearing was reported as completely broken on dismantling
- Front bearing position was questioned because it did not appear to sit flush with room for the seal
- Accepted advice stated the front bearing should recess deep enough to allow the seal to fit over it
- Parts or tools mentioned
- bearing set
- door seal
- new spider
- mallet
Safety: Avoid striking the drum shaft directly with a metal hammer, as this can damage the shaft and components. Further diagnosis should be carried out by a suitably qualified appliance engineer.
3 Answers
The bearing seal should be fitted over the front bearing before fitting the drum. The front bearing would normally fit deep enough to allow the bearing seal to fit over it.
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Thanks Andy, but there's barely enough room for the bearing in the HWB280, let alone a recess for the seal.
Would you know if I've got the wrong bearing set? The people at Hoovers new "advice" line were very uncooperative & I can't find any specific info relating to the HWB280.
Thanks again
If the bearing fits in I would think it's the right one. I can't say for certain it's not thicker somehow though I'd be surprised. Many modern washing machines are designed not to be repairable and the drum bearings can be difficult to fit. Many Hoover washing machines (amongst others) have sealed outer drums which are designed to be unrepairable. The front bearing should be knocked into place until it hits a recess and will not go further. It's a tricky job, and one slip of the punch can damage the bearing. You should be able to hear and feel when the bearing will go no further and by that time it should have recessed enough to make room for the bearing seal.
You should never (as you've discovered) hit the drum shaft with a metal hammer. Always use a mallet, or at least place some hardwood over it whilst you hit it.
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