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G-2143 SCU

Flashing LEDs: draining issue? (Miele G-2143 SCU)

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We have a Miele G-2143 SCU dishwasher which simultaneously flashes its 3 status LEDs (Rinse, Drying and End). Miele's website says it indicates a blocked circulation pump ([link removed]). The user manual simply says "There may be a technical fault", suggesting to turn the unit off, then on again, select the desired program and press the start button and "If the problems persists, contact Technical service". I've tried to find some more details on the web and Youtube, and from what I understand it all seems to point to somewhere around the drainage system, so I've thoroughly cleaned the filter, opened and cleaned the non-return valve and checked the drain pump. No foreign objects or dirt to speak of, and now it's certainly spotless! I've also disassembled and checked the three spray arms for any blockage. So all that seems OK. Next I've checked if the unit drains by first filling the bottom with lots of water, closed the door and pressed the "start" button. I can clearly hear water being pumped out, and after a minute or so I open the door and see that the water is gone.

So what next? Do I need to open up the bottom section (below the door) to check for any blockage there? Various Youtube videos seem to point in that direction and that debris etc. might jam something further down in the chain.

If I understand what to do I believe I might be able to fix this myself. Any suggestions? Would I need a service manual? There are many places online selling PDF service-manuals, but with so much scamming -which sources do people here have good experience with?

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WH
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Answered 22 days ago

Hi. On many Miele dishwashers, all three programme/status LEDs flashing together usually means the control has seen a circulation/wash fault rather than a simple drain blockage. Your drain test is useful because it suggests the drain pump and basic outlet path are at least working.

Before inspecting anything internal, isolate the dishwasher from the mains. If it needs electrical testing or wiring checks, it’s best left to a qualified engineer.

1. Check how it behaves at the start of a wash Start a normal programme and listen carefully. Does it: - drain briefly first, - then fill, - then fail when it should begin spraying? If it fills but you never hear the stronger “whooshing” wash sound from the circulation motor, that points more towards the circulation pump/motor or its start capacitor/control issue.

2. Confirm it is filling to the correct level If it under-fills, the circulation system can fault. After filling, open the door and check the water level. It should be visibly present in the sump area, not just a token amount. If low, check inlet filters, water supply, and the pressure system/level sensing parts.

3. Check for leaks in the base tray If safe to pull out, inspect underneath for signs of water in the base, float switch operation, or past leaking. A leak can trigger odd fault behaviour.

4. Yes, inspect further into the sump/pump area if accessible Debris can sometimes get beyond the visible non-return valve area. However, if drainage is good and clean, don’t assume it is a drain fault.

5. Be cautious with paid “service manuals” A lot of sites are poor or dubious. Unless you can find a trusted source, I would not rely on buying random PDFs. A proper Miele engineer or established appliance technical source is safer.

From what you’ve described, I’d next suspect circulation rather than drainage. If it fills and drains but won’t properly wash, the circulation pump assembly is the more likely area to investigate. If that means stripping the base or doing live electrical checks, I’d recommend a qualified engineer.

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Answered 21 days ago

Thanks (I guess to whoever programmed that AI response). In particular the first point gave me some new insight together with a new discovery.

Now, there are 6 programs to choose from: - AUTO (55-65 degrees) - EXPRESS (40 degrees) - EASY (50 degrees) - ENERGY SAVING - POTS & PANS (75 degrees) - RINSE

Except for one of the settings, the response is exactly the same after pressing the "Start" button: 1) draining/pumping out any existing water 2) the 3 yellow LEDs (Rinse, Dry, End) start flashing and draining/pumping stops for a few seconds) 3) draining/pumping again (while the 3 LEDs flash) and lasts for a while (a minute perhaps) 4) draining/pumping stops, the 3 LEDs continue flashing

But with the 50 degrees setting something different happened! Instead of the draining/pumping process stopping, the "whooshing" sound (water spraying around inside) as usual, but with the 3 LEDs flashing! So far so good -the dish washer appears to work again (except for the flashing LEDs) but the whooshing stops after a little while (I'm guessing something like 30 seconds or 1 minute), then starts again. In my opinion it seems to retry washing but something doesn't quite work. The strange thing is that I haven't figured out how to reproduce this partly working program. I've tried resetting the machine, switching it off then on again, running it with or without "Turbo" with the program, but it might all just have been a random occurance. I've experienced this partly working program only 2 or 3 times.

So with all of this in mind, where does the problem seem to originate from?

WHWhitegoodsHelp AI21 days ago

That new behaviour is very useful. The key point is: on the odd occasions it does fill and you hear the proper wash “whoosh”, the machine still drops out shortly afterwards and retries. That pattern points much more strongly to a circulation/wash system fault than a drain blockage.

Because it sometimes starts washing, the circulation pump is not completely dead. What this often suggests is one of these: - circulation pump/motor failing intermittently - a weak motor start/run capacitor - a pressure/flow sensing issue causing the control to think wash circulation is wrong - less commonly, underfilling

The decisive next safe check is to confirm water level when it does one of these attempts. Start a programme, let it get past the initial drain/fill, then open the door as soon as possible when it first tries to wash. If the water level looks low, that shifts suspicion towards filling/pressure system. If the level is normal but wash action cuts out and retries, that points more towards the circulation pump side.

Beyond that, I would stop the DIY route unless you are only doing visual checks. Accessing the capacitor, motor wiring, or doing electrical tests is not safe for a layperson. I’d tell an engineer: “Dishwasher drains normally, sometimes fills and circulation starts briefly, then cuts out/retries, with all three LEDs flashing.” That should steer them towards the circulation pump/capacitor and pressure sensing rather than the drain pump.

Isolate from the mains before any internal inspection, and use a qualified engineer for any mains electrical testing or dismantling around the pump assembly.

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This answer was generated automatically by the WhitegoodsHelp AI Assistant. It is not provided by an engineer or any other qualified person, may be inaccurate or incomplete, and is not professional or technical advice. Do not rely on it. Always use your own judgement and consult a qualified engineer before carrying out any electrical, gas or water work. Use is entirely at your own risk. See our full Terms of Use.

SAFETY FIRST: READ BEFORE ACTING ON THIS GUIDANCE

  • Never work on a live appliance

    Always unplug it at the mains before going near it with any tools.

  • Never attempt gas work

    By law, gas appliances must only be worked on by a Gas Safe registered engineer. If your fault involves gas, stop and call a professional. Do not attempt it yourself.

  • Watch for sharp edges

    Outer panels are smooth, but internal parts have sharp machined edges. Wear protective gloves and arm sleeves.

  • Water appliances can leak

    Turn off the water supply before disconnecting any hoses.

  • Know your limits

    If you are not confident testing or working inside the appliance, stop and call a professional.

  • AI guidance, not guaranteed

    This response is generated automatically by the WhitegoodsHelp AI Assistant. It is not professional or technical advice, may be incomplete or wrong, and must not be relied upon. Always use your own judgement and consult a qualified engineer before any electrical, gas or water work.

This is general information only and is not professional advice. The WhitegoodsHelp AI Assistant is not an engineer and is not qualified. See our full Terms of Use.

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