MIELE 3164 Motor wont spin F50
In middle of cycle Miele displayed F50 clothes didnt spin. Cleaned filter machine span motor very slowly then stopped totally.
If reset machine it fills and then pumps water out but wont turn motor. Drum rotates without issue.
Machine 7 years old. An enginner wanted £250 to stripdown as back dont come off. Everyring need to come out of front. How easy is it to take front panel off. Does xonreol panel need to come off to acccess screws?
On and yes Test cycoe shows motor fault on first position
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Miele 3164 F50 no spin traced to worn motor carbon brush
- The problem
- Miele 3164 stopped mid-cycle with F50 and the clothes did not spin. After the filter was cleaned, the motor only turned very slowly and then stopped. On reset, the machine filled and then pumped the water out but would not drive the motor. The drum could be turned by hand and the test cycle reported a motor fault at the first position.
- Likely cause
- Motor drive fault caused by a severely worn motor carbon brush. The discussion suggests one brush was worn away completely while the other still had substantial life left.
- What fixed it
- The motor was dismantled enough to inspect the brushes. The original poster found one brush extremely worn and replaced the brushes. After fitting new brushes, the machine worked again.
- Checks to try
- Cleaned the filter
- Reset the machine and observed fill then pump-out with no motor drive
- Confirmed the drum rotated freely by hand
- Ran the test cycle, which showed a motor fault on the first position
- Inspected the motor carbon brushes and found one extremely worn
- Parts or tools mentioned
- Motor carbon brushes
- Emery paper
Safety: Further diagnosis should be carried out by a suitably qualified appliance engineer.
9 Answers
Hi. I only have one error 50 code description for Miele and it just says, "drive". It's possibly a motor fault, if carbon brushes are fitted they could be worn but I have a Miele that's 15 years old and brushes haven't worn yet. I don't know about exact how to strip down. Probably not advisable unless very experienced in such matters.
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Have taken apart brushes extremely worn will replace abd see.
Nice one. Is one or both charred? If they are not making contact one or both should be charred. If they are both shiny, even though worn down they are probably still making contact with the commutator and may not be the fault unless they are extremely worn down. Check this page carbon brushes diagnostics
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One was really badly worn. Worried if motor on way out. Will clean up motor as well with emery paper. Waiting on brushes. Hope can out back together easily enough.
The one on the left looks jammed. Is it charred where it runs on the commutation? The one on the right looks like it has another 10 years life in it.
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Its worn down all the way! Nothing left on it. Admit the other one has loads of life left.
Looks promising that this is the problem.
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All working with new brushes
Excellent news well played.
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