Do I Need Calgon?
Hello, newbie here, only found this website today. I have in the last month bought a new washing machine hotpoint wt960p and I live in a hard water area Hull I was wondering about buying calgon and wondered if anyone else had any views about it, I am using Ariel biological powder for whites and Ariel colour and style for coloured both in powder form, any suggestions would be great thanks
Richard
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Advice on Calgon use with Hotpoint WT960P in a hard water area
- The problem
- Owner of a new Hotpoint WT960P washing machine in a hard water area asked whether Calgon or another limescale product was needed when already using Ariel powder detergents.
- Likely cause
- No appliance fault was reported. The discussion centred on prevention of limescale in hard water and whether normal detergent dosage already provides sufficient water softening/protection.
- What fixed it
- The strongest advice in the thread was that extra anti-limescale products are not necessarily required if detergent is used at the correct dosage for hard water. One reply stated Ariel has built-in softeners, and other replies similarly preferred following detergent instructions rather than adding a separate softener. The accepted post also noted that visible suds are not a reliable sign of better cleaning. No specific repair or maintenance action was confirmed by the original poster.
- Checks to try
- Hard water location stated as Hull
- Machine model given as Hotpoint WT960P
- Detergents used: Ariel biological powder and Ariel Colour and Style powder
- One forum reply referred to using the correct detergent dosage for hard water
- One forum reply mentioned a water hardness paper-strip test, but not for the original poster
- Parts or tools mentioned
- Calgon anti-limescale tablets
- Ariel biological powder
- Ariel Colour and Style powder
- Tesco limescale prevention tablets
- Water hardness test strip
4 Answers
Soap suds can create a cushioning effect and hinder the vital process of the laundry rubbing against against each other, therefore reducing washing efficiency. I expect it's only a problem if excessive soap suds are present though.
My understanding is that the suds effect is added to keep customers happy. Washing detergents that didn't have any suds at all have been tried in the past but were marketing failures because the public wouldn't accept that it was washing their laundry properly if they couldn't see any soap suds. As far as I know, detergent doesn't need any suds at all, but the public love them because they (wrongly) believe soap suds are synonymous with cleaning.
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If you haven't already read Washerhelp's article Should I use Calgon anti limescale tablets or other such products?
it gives a perspective.
I also calculated how much it would be, and it ended up around the same ballpark figure of £70
The Hotpoint machine can cost less than £300 or about £277 from Dixons during their February promotion, which is the same price as using Calgon tablets for 4 years. Ariel has built in softners which work if you use the correct dosage.
If the Ariel softeners and limescale protection doesn't work (which I would find pretty slim)
assuming limescale death arrives at 4 years on, then it's prudent to replace the Hotpoint with another of the same as
a. you replenish the warranty for a year
b. it will be (arguably) more reliable than a 4 year old machine.
c. it's 'FREE!' - paid for by put aside Calgon costs
We didn't use Calgon with our Philips washing machine and that lasted 20 years... It did stop working and I had to remove the filter to clean it out... admittedly it hadn't been cleaned for 10 years!!. I released a load of limescale and other junk which was clogging up the filter, then it worked again!
We use Persil non bio and now follow the instructions to the letter regarding dosage so for a hard water area this is normally three tablets.
OK this is now one more than we used before (who reads instructions anyway) and in the opinion of Lever Brothers should give a clean wash and prevent limescale build up. The extra tablet probably equates to buying a water softer but if I use a water softener do I drop back to two or one tablet as the water is now "soft" Either way the cost is probably roughly the same.
Personally I will stick with the Persil theory rather than add a softener, will post the results in 10 years time.
Hi Richard I live in North Norfolk and according to the recent test I did the water here was the highest on the hardness scale. (it was a paper strip test similar to ones used to test blood sugar levels). I've never used calgon because of the high cost but have been using Tesco's own limescale prevention tablets whic are a fraction of the cost. They used to be £2.95 for 30 they have now come down to £2.35 for 30. It does seem to make a difference in thatbefore without anything using the recommended amount of detergent would show no signs of suds at all. Hope this helps. I had been think of getting a water softner but for the moment due to lack of funds I'll be sticking to the tesco's limescale tabs .
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