Racket Eminating From Drum
A racket of noise has developed within the 10yr old Indesit Wil 123s washer whilst on full spin cycle and it's definately not the bearing.
The three paddles attached to the drum wall are not tight but lose fitting and make a similar noise if rattled by hand.
This noise of plastic on metal is greatly exacerbated when on full spin, should the paddles be snug fitting and therefore need replacing due to wear and tear, and if that's the case, how are they removed to fit new ones?
I have perused the site and this noise problem isn't covered.
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Indesit WIL 123S noisy on full spin with loose drum paddles
- The problem
- A 10-year-old Indesit WIL 123S developed a loud plastic-on-metal noise on full spin. The original poster found the three drum paddles were loose and could be rattled by hand, and believed the noise was not from the bearings.
- Likely cause
- The strongest evidence points to worn or loose drum paddle fixings/clips. The accepted reply also noted the loose paddles could be a symptom of other drum damage, such as the drum being loose and catching the outer tub, but this was not confirmed.
- What fixed it
- Replace the loose drum paddles after identifying the correct parts by serial number if necessary. Removal advice given was to locate the hole above the retaining metal tab, press the tab down slightly with a small screwdriver, then slide the paddle forwards and lift it out. Before fitting the new paddle, the metal tab should be bent back up flush with the drum. The exact repair result was not confirmed in the discussion.
- Checks to try
- Confirmed the three drum paddles were loose by hand
- Noise occurred mainly on full spin
- Bearing fault was ruled out by the original poster
- Advice given to check the correct paddle version against the serial number
- Parts or tools mentioned
- Replacement drum paddles
- Small screwdriver
Safety: Further diagnosis should be carried out by a suitably qualified appliance engineer.
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They shouldn't be rattling, but at the same time I would expect that when on spin, with a load of laundry in, the centrifugal force would sort of hold them in place so they didn't rattle. All the laundry gets forced against the drum quite hard, which of course is how the water is squeezed out of them so they should in theory be held firmly in place on spin. I can't be sure, but that's how I'd expect it to be. It could be that the loose paddles are a symptom of damage caused by something else. If the drum itself is loose and catching on the outer drum it could have sheered off the plastic rivets holding the paddles in place.
I've covered as many possible causes for washing machine noise in my article if you haven't already gone through it
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If this is the thing you are talking about, then yes after 10 years I would expect the clips to wear and them to come loose. They are not an expensive item to buy and easy to fit into the drum.
Please support my forum and help sites by using 4washerhelp.co.uk to order spares from. It's run by the biggest spares company in the UK wand exactly the same database and prices as most of the large spares companies with various names online. You can order drum paddles or any appliance part.
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Thanks for the replies - Wouldn't it be great if we could have download audio sounds of noises to assist in members' deliberations.
Seems it could be another surgical elimination process Andy - I do have steady hands and an adventurist mind.
Anyway, it's clear the paddles are loose and are going to be changed - then we shall have to listen and see.
Edd has kindly provided a picture of the same ones and says they're clipped on. I don't want to aimlessly prise them off -when there's a technique to taking them out- and dropping broken tabs/clips of plastic into the chamber between the two drums, thus creating another sound when in motion,so,whilst waiting for replacements and looking at them on the underside to give me clues, can anyone say beforehand how removal will be attained.
Much appreciated and regards
There are instructions on my 4washerhelp spares site (eg http://www.4washerhelp.co.uk/washing-machine/drum-paddle/product.pl?pid=49109&path=495970:599890&refine=drum+paddle">Indesit drum paddles). Usually it's pushing a small screwdriver down a specific hole. However, many of these drum paddles changed design but were fitted to the same model number washing machine so often you need to consult the serial number to identify the correct ones.
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BTW you can attach files to a post korky. If you click the "More Reply Options" button there's an attachment link. People have posted videos, which have sometimes proven useful.
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there is no prising off or breaking tabs involved. You have to determine which hole has the small metal tab under in, level with the drum and use a screwdriver to push it down a couple of mm. The paddle assembly then just slides forwards and up/out.
On some it appears to be the third hole from the front, some it seems to be the 6th hole, but not sure which one yours is.
before putting the new one in, you have to bend the metal tab back up, flush with the drum.
saying that, when the new parts arrive you will clearly see which hole to use for depressing the tab. Here is a youtube video that clearly shows the process.
Please remember to consider using 4Washerhelp spares site for spare parts, if no one uses any of the resources linked to from this forum and Whitegoodshelp I cannot keep my sites running.
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