New Wave Auto Washer 1100 Can't Sustain Fast Spin
When the spin cycle shifts into higher speed you can hear the motor speed varying slightly and after a few seconds the spin stops with all leds flashing. Any help would be appreciated.
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New Wave Auto Washer 1100 aborts on high-speed spin with flashing LEDs
- The problem
- The washing machine would enter spin, then as it changed to higher speed the motor speed varied slightly, after a few seconds the spin stopped and all LEDs flashed. After fitting new motor carbon brushes, it still cut out on fast spin, especially with larger loads. The owner also reported that on a fast-spin-only programme it sometimes began filling with water when the motor cut out.
- Likely cause
- Most strongly supported diagnosis is motor commutator/armature wear, or the machine’s sensitive motor-sparking detection reacting during fast spin. The accepted reply said these New Wave models commonly abort on fast spin when the armature is worn, and that new brushes may not cure it if the armature is already worn.
- What fixed it
- Carbon brushes were replaced, but this did not resolve the fault. The accepted advice was that although the armature can be replaced on these models, it is beyond economic repair due to the machine’s age. Replacement of the appliance was therefore the practical recommendation. The water-fill behaviour after aborting was noted as unusual and not explained or confirmed as part of the repair.
- Checks to try
- Observed motor speed hunting slightly as high-speed spin started
- Spin stopped after a few seconds with all LEDs flashing
- Motor carbon brushes were replaced
- Fault remained after brush replacement, particularly on large loads
- Advice to check whether there were flashes or rings of sparks across the armature rather than only small normal sparks
- Parts or tools mentioned
- motor carbon brushes
Safety: Further diagnosis should be carried out by a suitably qualified appliance engineer.
3 Answers
The chances are the motor is flashing and sparking causing the washing machine to abort. You can try replacing the carbon brushes if you like but it's possible that the armature is worn. If so it will do the same even with new brushes in. You could order new carbon brushes from online washing machine spares sites listed here if you require - Washing machine spares
The chances of the armature also been worn is dependent on the age and amount of washing it's done.
Hi. I did what you suggested and changed the brushes but it does still cut out on fast spin, particularly if the load is large. Rather strangely, sometimes, if you select fast spin only, as soon as the motor cuts out the machine starts to fill with water! Could this be the sparking corrupting the programme?
Many thanks.
Is the armature sparking badly when it goes onto fast spin? By sparking, I don't mean minute sparks, which are normal and acceptable, but flashes, or rings of sparks that run from one carbon brush to the other.
If it only cuts out and starts the lights flashing on the fast spin then it sounds like the armature is worn out. This is behaviour I've seen many times on the New Wave washing machines because of the bizarre way Hoove rmake carbon brushes for these models. Instead of having a smooth curved surface, they have a grooved service where they run against the armature. This makes them very difficult to bed in with any armature that's slightly worn.
On Hoover New wave washing machines you can replace the armature, and it used to be a viable job, but it's way beyond economic repair now due to the age of these machines.
As for the filling with water when it aborts. I've not seen that, and it's weird.
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Hi again Andy,
The armature doesn't really spark that badly. I've seen it far worse on previous occasions when the brushes have needed replacing. Started looking at new machines yesterday and was rather taken by the Miele Premium 300. Haven't completely given up yet though.
Many thanks for your help.
These New Wave washing machines have a particularly sensitive electronics for detecting sparking at the brushes. Consiquently, they can abort when in reality the sparking isn't that bad and the motor would run OK. Maybe if given a chance, they would bed in nicely after a few washes and spins. There's nothing we can do about it, it's just these washing machines.
The Miele washing machine is indeed a very well made washing machine. Probably twice as well made as the Hoover ( Related: Miele washing machine review and other washing machine reviews - Washing machine reviews )
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